Justice Malala and Ivor Chipkin in conversation: what Covid-19 has revealed about SA politics.

Tony Shapshak convenes a conversation between myself and Justice Malala about what the Coronavirus has revealed about smoking, morality and government in South Africa. This is the first episode of our new show, Filling the Gapp’.

Listen to it here: https://iono.fm/e/902534

Coming next week, a discussion chaired by Toby Shapshak between myself, Mcebisi Ndletyana and Crispian Olver about what South Africa looks like from Port Elizabeth/ Nelson Mandela Bay. I can give you a clue: politics and patronage.